Date: Saturday, 7 July 1984 11:44 mst From: James J. Lippard Subject: Miscellaneous Digest V3 #17 Reply-To: {mbx >udd>Multics>Lippard>misc>misc} To: {list >udd>Multics>Lippard>misc>misc} Miscellaneous Digest Volume 3 : Issue 17 Today's topics: net.unix talks about Multics from the Gloria quotes list ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Friday, 6 July 1984 16:02 mst From: James J. Lippard Subject: net.unix talks about Multics Date: Friday, 6 July 1984 13:41 mst From: jay at S1-C Redistributed-Date: 6 July 1984 14:04 mst Redistributed-From: Pattin Redistributed-To: {forum >udd>PDO>Pattin>forums>us} >From ut-sally!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!munck@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mordor.UUCP Path: mordor!ut-sally!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!munck@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA From: munck@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Least We Forget: MULTICS Message-ID: <1608@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Jul-84 12:38:00 PDT Date-Received: Fri, 6-Jul-84 04:11:42 PDT Lines: 26 ---------------- All, In all of the discussions of the virtues and vices of UNIX, comparisons with VMS and CMS, and arguments about its use with/as a programming support environment, I think that we should acknowledge occasionally the fact that it was inspired by and named for MULTICS. Many, if not most, of the highly- touted features of UNIX were actually developed by the innovative and very competent people who worked on the MULTICS project at MIT in the Sixties. My MULTICS experience is at least a dozen years old, and blurred by the many file systems and command languages I've collided with since; I can't begin to describe its rich set of features off the top of my head. However, given that the UNIX designers essentially "cut down MULTICS to fit" smaller, more available machines, there may be many valuable concepts that didn't make it into UNIX and that could be of use to us now. Anyone have a dusty old MPM or MSPM lying around? It has been suggested that UNIX owes much of its acceptance to the fact that it was the first and for a long time the only OS that was fairly machine-independent and for which the source code was available outside the developing organization. It's interesting to speculate where we'd be now if MULTICS had been done on a smaller, less exotic machine; all the C fans would probably be using PL/I and just as vociferous as they are now. /* Bob Munck, the MITRE Corporation */ >From ut-sally!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!WMM@ACC.ARPA Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mordor.UUCP Path: mordor!ut-sally!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!WMM@ACC.ARPA From: WMM@ACC.ARPA Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Least We Forget: MULTICS Message-ID: <1613@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Jul-84 17:37:00 PDT Date-Received: Fri, 6-Jul-84 04:12:02 PDT Lines: 16 From: Waiming Mok Re: Least We Forget: MULTICS Cc: INFO-UNIX@BRL-VGR Granted many features of UNIX derived from MULTICS, one thing most likely did not. That is its structural conciseness. This conciseness contributes to the large number of degrees of freedom in terms of UNIX's flexibility. If one would draw the analogy of PL/1 to MULTICS as C is to UNIX, I would choose C/UNIX anytime. Waiming Mok @ ACC ------ ------------------------------ Date: Saturday, 7 July 1984 11:43 mst From: James J. Lippard Subject: from the Gloria quotes list Office: 4201 Wean/Science Hall Phone : 412-578-3054 IS-A : CS grad student Project: Cousin "Pentagon chiefs have guarded technology involving very high speed integrated circuits (VHSIC) on grounds that design and production are far beyond present Soviet capabilities and thus prime candidates for theft or reverse engineering. Latest twist followed a General Accounting Office request for a VHSIC chip photo to illustrate a report, which was denied by the office of the assistant secretary for international security policy. The GAO, citing its position as an arm of Congress, persisted. So the Pentagon sent one over---a VHSIC container in which the chip itself was cut out and an aerial photo, greatly reduced, of a parking lot was inserted." Aviation Week, 25 June 1984, p. 15. **==> That was Howard Gayle's plan file. Posted on Mac bb by JP0M One day not too long ago, Joe Regelski, a newsperson for local radio station KQAK, mentioned on the air that he liked Safeway's Cragmont Cola. Joe quickly received three cases of the cola in the mail. KQAK D.J. Alex Bennett thought about this for a while. Then he mentioned it on the air, and added "Boy, I sure love those Macintosh computers." Next thing Bennett knew, a large package arrived. The return address was Apple Computer. Bennett talked to his boss, his lawyers, and the FCC. No one could figure out any reason he couldn't accept it. So he ripped open the box. Inside were four six-packs of Cragmont Cola! [abstracted from a recent InfoWorld] You might find me at: Mobile Robots X8713 SkyCave Mobile Robot Annex (ofc) X8830 SkyCave Home 421-0196 Squill If you can't find me at any of these places, forget it, and send mail. Hacking Combat Robotics for the Autonomous Mobile Robots Group =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= **==> That was Kevin Dowling's plan file. ------------------------------ End of Miscellaneous Digest ***************************